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Priest Of Sin · Mar 13, 2007, 03:47 AM // 03:47

Frazzy, you're one bored S.O.B.

Keep the pointless threads coming xD

Soul of the Scythe · Mar 13, 2007, 08:27 PM // 20:27

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Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

Applying pressure and then spike a low target with Reaper's Sweep when they don't expect it definitely > Wounding Strike.

I'm talking mostly about PvE, probably should have clarified that. PvP I more than likely take Reaper's Sweep for that reason. Although Wounding Strike would put a lot of pressure on healers to remove DW every 3 seconds unless the mesmers and/or necros can keep enchants off me, and even then I still apply bleeding w/o an enchantment on.

Ah but u can (pretty much) constantly reapply DW, only 3 second recharge. Just in case it gets removed. My dervish has over 600 health so deep wound at beginning helps me alot because it puts most monsters under 600 health right off the bat and thusly making them prime targets for chilling victory and victorius sweep. And if there are other guys around me they get hit for DW as well, making it able to take down 3 guys very quickly. Group Spiking....(oxymoron?) kinda what a Dervish does.... hmmm.....

Truth be told, I haven't even capped Reaper's Sweep with my Dervish yet. It's on my list(Dervish is trying to cap all elites), I started with the harder caps first(Sandstorm[not in Rilohn, woops], RoF caps, and FoC to name a few). I used the Avatars(not a big fan of them anymore) until I capped Wounding Strike. I found Wounding Strike by accident, the guy who had the Green Scythe I wanted(Eshekibeh's Scythe) happened to have Wounding Strike. I love that skin!

Again a matter of preference...

leobalter · Mar 13, 2007, 08:39 PM // 20:39

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most raw AoE damage = ele
most raw single target damage = warrior or assassin
most armor = warrior

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It's wrong.

AoE = Necro (like SS or SS + Barbs plus MM Hero, Mark of Fury, etc)
Single Target = Necro (Spoil Victor or such another skills, like Grenth's Balace)
Single Armor = not the necro, but gives the party a great Tank team playing as Minion Mancer.

So, Necro is the best way...

Thomas.knbk · Mar 13, 2007, 09:01 PM // 21:01

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Originally Posted by Soul of the Scythe

I'm talking mostly about PvE, probably should have clarified that

100% agreed then

Quote:

Originally Posted by leobalter

.............

It's wrong.

AoE = Necro (like SS or SS + Barbs plus MM Hero, Mark of Fury, etc)
Single Target = Necro (Spoil Victor or such another skills, like Grenth's Balace)
Single Armor = not the necro, but gives the party a great Tank team playing as Minion Mancer.

So, Necro is the best way...

He's probably talking about PvP. People bring hax removal there, and minions suck. He's actually pretty right about it all.

Soul of the Scythe · Mar 14, 2007, 02:54 PM // 14:54

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Originally Posted by leobalter

.............

It's wrong.

AoE = Necro (like SS or SS + Barbs plus MM Hero, Mark of Fury, etc)
Single Target = Necro (Spoil Victor or such another skills, like Grenth's Balace)
Single Armor = not the necro, but gives the party a great Tank team playing as Minion Mancer.

So, Necro is the best way...

AoE = Can't argue that an Elementalist is better. We are talking about on their own, not with help from heroes or henchies.
Single Target = debatable but definetely NOT necro according to your arguments. Grenths Balance and SV totally depend on your health and/or the targets health so it is not always effective. Although when effective it's damn good. Necro does have good single target dmg spells due to armor ignoring damage ill give you that.
Armor = Minion Masters are a valid point, an army of minions is a damn good tank. Only problem is you need corpses to make this army, again conditional.

Grenths Requires your health to be low and the targets health to be high to be effective adn SV requires at least the targets health to be high. Great on bosses(case and point: SV owns Shiro and Grenths stops that damn meditation BS if used right), but most normal monsters have normal health(around 600) lvl 24 guys have 560 and lvl 28 guys have 640.

Darkobra · Mar 14, 2007, 03:50 PM // 15:50

Mesmers are actually one of my best PVP classes. I usually have the ability to take apart the weaknesses of others. It's mainly just a mind game as a mesmer. Backfire the monk, if they try to remove it, cast diversion and try to steal their spells that remove hexes or their elites while annoying the hell out of melee classes with empathy. Frenzy warriors are my favourite targets for empathy. Most are gullible enough to still attack. If they're smart enough not to attack, I use energy surge on them to still cause massive damage, as most warriors just use adrenaline, so will have enough energy to take the full damage.

Elementalists are vicious in PVE. The best at taking out groups quickly with the right build. Energy won't always be an issue if you know how to use your skills efficiently. A mark of rodgort to cause constant burning usually aids you too.

Monks are a great class in PVE or PVP, as long as the person using the monk is smart enough. I always get called an amazing monk, but I just don't enjoy it as much as I do the damage based classes. Being a monk is easy enough for me, and doing a mission, I just feel like I'm walking through it rather than contributing. With poor teams that go out of their way to take damage, you'll have a lot of work. With great teams that know what they're doing, you'll have nothing more than patch work.

Assassins can take down a single target quickly. Very quickly. But if they're not careful or get spiked, they'll also be the ones to die quickly.

So in the end, it all comes down to a class you're comfortable with and good enough with to help the team. I'm comfortable with a monk, mesmer or elementalist in PVP and I can play any class in PVE efficiently. That also means I won't take my chances playing a ranger in PVP as I'd be uncomfortable with the best build for different situations, rather than just being an interrupter.

Duke Bonebreaker · Mar 15, 2007, 05:37 AM // 05:37

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Originally Posted by Mournblade

I see Frazzy is bored again.

n00b is the most powerful class, because they can do damage to hundreds of people at once.

HAHAHAHAHAHA ITS TRUE BUT REALLY FUNNY

Sxy Seraphin · Mar 15, 2007, 04:17 PM // 16:17

I have an E/ME and the heavy nuker build does alot of damge by using echo to copy a heavy hitting high damage skill...basically u copy ur best move once or twice and slaughter ur opponent

Mar 13, 2007, 03:47 AM // 03:47	#41
Priest Of Sin Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sitting upon Kerrigan's Throne. Guild: Live For The Swarm [ZERG] Profession: Me/N	Frazzy, you're one bored S.O.B. Keep the pointless threads coming xD

Mar 14, 2007, 03:50 PM // 15:50	#46
Darkobra Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Scotland Guild: Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot Profession: E/Me	Mesmers are actually one of my best PVP classes. I usually have the ability to take apart the weaknesses of others. It's mainly just a mind game as a mesmer. Backfire the monk, if they try to remove it, cast diversion and try to steal their spells that remove hexes or their elites while annoying the hell out of melee classes with empathy. Frenzy warriors are my favourite targets for empathy. Most are gullible enough to still attack. If they're smart enough not to attack, I use energy surge on them to still cause massive damage, as most warriors just use adrenaline, so will have enough energy to take the full damage. Elementalists are vicious in PVE. The best at taking out groups quickly with the right build. Energy won't always be an issue if you know how to use your skills efficiently. A mark of rodgort to cause constant burning usually aids you too. Monks are a great class in PVE or PVP, as long as the person using the monk is smart enough. I always get called an amazing monk, but I just don't enjoy it as much as I do the damage based classes. Being a monk is easy enough for me, and doing a mission, I just feel like I'm walking through it rather than contributing. With poor teams that go out of their way to take damage, you'll have a lot of work. With great teams that know what they're doing, you'll have nothing more than patch work. Assassins can take down a single target quickly. Very quickly. But if they're not careful or get spiked, they'll also be the ones to die quickly. So in the end, it all comes down to a class you're comfortable with and good enough with to help the team. I'm comfortable with a monk, mesmer or elementalist in PVP and I can play any class in PVE efficiently. That also means I won't take my chances playing a ranger in PVP as I'd be uncomfortable with the best build for different situations, rather than just being an interrupter.

Mar 15, 2007, 04:17 PM // 16:17	#48
Sxy Seraphin Academy Page Join Date: Mar 2007 Profession: E/	I have an E/ME and the heavy nuker build does alot of damge by using echo to copy a heavy hitting high damage skill...basically u copy ur best move once or twice and slaughter ur opponent